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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Caprica Reply with quote

Το πρώτο trailer

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=14&id=57977

και στο youtube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hXT_-258Kso
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sci-fi crime drama? Me kabourakia kai palta? Kai strange hi-tec eyepieces?

8elw na dw toulaxiston pws arxizei auto to pragma.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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8elw na dw toulaxiston pws arxizei auto to pragma.

I second that. Αν και κάτι με κάνει να φοβάμαι ότι δε θα είναι όσα οφείλει να είναι.

Πάντως strange hi-tec eyepieces are money.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Highlander wrote:
Sci-fi crime drama? Me kabourakia kai palta? Kai strange hi-tec eyepieces?

8elw na dw toulaxiston pws arxizei auto to pragma.


arxizei awesome....eidate pilot?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on the awesome front.

Oi an8rwpoi pleon 8ewrw oti einai eggyhsh. An ksekinas piloto sci-fi seiras me

16xrona na kanoun epi8eseis aytoktonias se trena sta plaisia Jihad, oi misoi forane kavourakia kai pinstripe koustoumia, kai enas apo tous main characters oxi apla klevei thn *downloaded* "psyxh" ths pou katafere na ftiaksei h korh tou, alla "nekranastainei" kai thn aderfh tou admiral adama gia na katalhksei na poulhsei to xalasmeno download ths korhs tou san opliko systhma, I wish I could make this kind of shit up..

E, nai, pare kai thn psyxh mou (pun not intended), giati ton xrono kai to endiaferon mou to exeis.

Pilotos kai einai toooooso gematos me yperoxa, pentanostima h8ika dillhmata kai xarakthres pou einai apla yperoxoi sto poso mh eksidanikeymenoi einai, akrivws opws ma8ame na tous agapame apo mia allh yperoxh sci-fi seira.

Pantws, me to pio present-like yfos pou exei mexri stigmhs, to Caprica 8a mporouse na leitourghsei apsoga kai san eisagwgh ston sci-fi kosmo tou BSG gia tous "aplous" an8rwpous pou den tous shkwnetai otan vlepoun robots me opla kai diasthmoploia (don't ask, I don't get it either).

To opoio ka8olou symptwmatika shmainei perissoteres pwlhseis gia ta BSG box sets, twra pou teleiwse kai ayto, but hey, tipota to kako there :p
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kai twra poios perimenei 1 xrono gia na vgei h seira? Sad Sad

Frakking amazing pilot! Kai exontas pleon kseperasei tin emmoni tou Moore peri texnofovias (ntaks o anthrwpos exei sindromo Frankestein), to apolausa pragmatika Smile

Ligo (elaxista) me psiloxalase to oti oi Cylons den apektisan monoi tous awareness alla htan idi emfyteumeno eks arxis opws kai h pisti tous ston One God. Tha protimousa na einai self-awareness kati tetoio. Alla den peirazei. Dedomenis tis filosofias tou Moore pisw apo o,ti ftiaxnei, einai katanoiti h eksigisi pou dinei.



2010 loipon... Kai as elpisoume oti tha zisei panw apo mia season pou pragmatika de vlepw giati na min to kanei.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sumfwnw me tous prolalhsantes. Fainetai apisteuta endiaferon, 8elw pragmatika na dw pou 8a pane thn istoria. M'aresei polu pou apo thn episthmonikh fantasia se stul Asimov, Clarke klp. tou BSG pername se kati polu pio konta ston Philip Dick, kai stous Bruce Sterling kai William Gibson.

Ante na perimeneis twra!
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8a sumfwnhsw kai egw anapofeukta se ola me olous tous parapanw. Anamonh twra..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Yum Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Σήμερα μας αφήνει το Dollhouse, αλλά υποδεχόμαστε το Caprica. Smile

Πρεμιέρα με τον 2-hour pilot που είχαμε δει σε dvdrip το καλοκαίρι, αλλά με κάποιες μικροαλλαγές που έκανε η Espenson για να δέσει καλύτερα με τα υπόλοιπα επεισόδια. Θα το ξαναδώ.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liges allages se sxesi me to dvd... to telos vasika einai ligo pio blunt gia na voithisei logika ti sinexeia twn episodeiwn opws eipe kai o Cotsos.

Egw eimai xaroumenos pou exoume mia seira sto BSG universe Smile Na xame kai ena firefly ti wraia pou tha tane...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ops, exei allages o pilotos? Prepei na to 3anadoume tote, thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Είδα και το δεύτερο επεισόδιο πριν από λίγο.

Έχει κάποια προβληματάκια. Καταρχάς δεν ξέρουμε ακόμα (πράγμα που δεν είναι και απαραίτητα κακό) τι είδους σειρά θα είναι. Θα είναι ουσιαστικά είναι κοινωνικό δράμα απλά σε έναν alternate κόσμο, θα έχει περισσότερα sci-fi και action στοιχεία, θα το δούμε φαντάζομαι.

Το εφφέ που αλλάζει μεταξύ Zoe και Cylon δεν μου αρέσει. Την πρώτη φορά που την έβλεπε έτσι ο πατέρας της δούλεψε αλλά μετά είναι ανούσιο. Θα προτιμούσα απλά να βλέπουμε τη Zoe μέσα στο μυαλό του Cylon μέσα σε αυτόν τον cyber κόσμο, χωρίς τις actual σκηνές που την δένουν κλπ.

Οι ηθοποιοί είναι μια χαρά με εξαίρεση την καθηγήτρια. Μα τους θεούς, πού την βρήκαν αυτή την τραγική Olivia Williams wannabe? Laughing

Τα CGI είναι ψιλοερασιτεχνικά ώρες ώρες (sequence στο γήπεδο), αλλά ΟΚ καταλβαίνουμε ότι είναι θέμα budget.

Η μουσική παραμένει εξαιρετική πάντως και κακά τα ψέματα είναι το μόνο που θυμίζει Galactica. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

το cgi ηταν μια χαρα, τι προβλημα ειχε το sequence στο γηπεδο?

οσο για το τι ειναι το caprica μην ξεχνας πως λογικα θα δουμε και τον πρωτο πολεμο με τους cylons που θα τελειωσει με την εμπλοκη των final five...τωρα ποσσο γρηγορα θα φτασουν εκει, θα δειξει...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xavier wrote:
το cgi ηταν μια χαρα, τι προβλημα ειχε το sequence στο γηπεδο?

οσο για το τι ειναι το caprica μην ξεχνας πως λογικα θα δουμε και τον πρωτο πολεμο με τους cylons που θα τελειωσει με την εμπλοκη των final five...τωρα ποσσο γρηγορα θα φτασουν εκει, θα δειξει...



Έλα ρε είχε κάτι copy paste στις κερκίδες χειρότερα από πρωτοσέλιδο του Φαιδρουλάκη. Laughing

Ο πρώτος πόλεμος , έγινε περίπου 20 χρόνια πριν τα γεγονότα του Galactica, όταν ο Adama ήταν ήδη έφηβος-ενήλικος αφού πολέμησε κι αυτός.
Χλωμό να φτάσει η σειρά μέχρι εκεί.
Εκτός αν έχει κάνα τεράστιο χρονικό άλμα ή ο πόλεμος ξεκίνησε όταν ήταν παιδί και κράτησε πολλά χρόνια. Δεν θυμάμαι να έχει αναφερθεί κάτι τέτοιο. Μπορεί και να κάνω λάθος.

Αυτό που δεν θέλω να γίνει, είναι να εμφανιστούν κι άλλες συμπτώσεις.
ΟΚ, το ότι ο πατέρας του Adama είχε σχέση με τον δημιουργό των Cylons είναι στο αρχικό concept της σειράς. Αλλά δεν θέλω να αρχίσουν να πετάγονται ξαφνικά ο πατέρας του Baltar που ήξερε τον παππού του μπατζανάκη του Gaeta και η μαμά της Starbuck τα είχε με τον μπαμπά Zarek και άλλα τέτοια.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ο ανταμα μπηκε στον πολεμο οταν αυτος τελειωνε...αν ισχυει το παρακατω timeline ειναι μοναχα 6 χρονια μεχρι να ξεκινησει ο πολεμος.

Δηλαδη ο ανταμα ειναι περιπου 17 οταν ξεκιναει ο πολεμος, στα 27 γινεται πιλοτος και οταν γινει 29 γινεται η ανακωχη.Στα γεγονοτα που παρακολουθουμε τωρα ειναι 11.


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# 69 years BCH:

* Saul Tigh supposedly born (defined by deleted scene in "Valley of Darkness" concerning the Brenik). This is actually a false memory planted by Cavil.
* William Adama born in Qualai, Caprica (Caprica pilot, Hero).

# 58—52 years BCH: With the use of a meta-cognitive processor stolen from Tauron rival Tomas Vergis, the Caprican tech CEO Daniel Graystone creates the first Cylons of the Twelve Colonies to aid in hard labor and warfare. A virtual copy of his dead monotheist daughter Zoe Graystone's consciousness is downloaded into one (Caprica pilot). Humanity is unaware that they are repeating the actions of their ancestors on Kobol.
# 52 years BCH:

* Cylon revolt starts the first Cylon War (Colonial Day).
* Articles of Colonization signed (Colonial Day).[4]

# 51 years BCH: Colonial ship Brenik is lost after a boarding action by Cylon Centurions (Valley of Darkness, deleted scene).
# ca. 50 years BCH: Battlestar Galactica enters service.
# 42 years BCH: William Adama begins his service in the Colonial Fleet as a Viper pilot, near the end of the Cylon War ("Hero", Razor Flashbacks).
# 40 years BCH:

* Mechanical Cylons begin experiments constructing humanoid forms of Cylon. They succeed in creating the First Hybrid and subsequent Hybrids, but no fully humanoid forms.
* The Final Five arrive in the Colonial solar system in the waning days of the war.
* The Five meet the local Cylons and negotiate an end to the war. They will give the Cylons biological bodies complete with resurrection technology if the Cylons agree to end the war.
* Operation Raptor Talon conducted by the Colonial Fleet. Battlestar Columbia destroyed (Razor Flashbacks).
* Armistice ends the Cylon War. Cylons exile themselves from the Twelve Colonies (Miniseries). The First Hybrid and his Guardians part company with the other Cylons.
* William Adama musters out of the Colonial Fleet ("Scattered", Adama's dossier).

# 37 BCH: William Adama enlists as merchant marine and serves aboard inter-colony freighters ("Scattered", Adama's dossier).
# 37 to ca. 30 BCH:

* The Cylons establish a secret base known as The Colony, built around and connected with the original ship of the Final Five. This is the place where research and development equipment belonging to the Final Five is stored.
* The Final Five create John Cavil, the first of the new humanoid Cylons that are their "children," and designate him model Number One. They raise him for some time.
* John matures and assists the Final Five in the creation of seven other humanoid Cylon models. A resurrection system is built for the new models based on technology left over from the Thirteenth Tribe.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So 2nd episode kai mporw idi na pw ti mou aresei kai ti de mou aresei.

So...

I do like:

*To deep background build stous politismous. Sto BSG auto den mporouse na anaptyxthei idiaitera alla peirame ena glimpse. Sto Caprica omws mporei, kai fainetai oti ginetai idi, na doume emvanthinsi sta diaforetika cultures twn colonies. Mexri stigmis exei estiasei perissotero stous Capricans kai tous Taurons alla elpizw oti tha doume kai tous ypoloipous. Kai sigoura oi Taurons den einai apla oi "mafiozoi" opws kai oi Italoi stin Ameriki den einai oloi mafiozoi. Mexri stigmis parousiazontai diarkws poly endiaferonta stoixeia kai einai fanero oti exei ginei kapoia sovari douleia pisw apo ti seira. Opws allwste armozei kai se ena swsto sci/fi.

* The good acting. Ta psila standard pou ethese to BSG (alla kai alles seires stin amerikaniki tileorasi, eidika stin kalwdiaki) paramenoun stathera.

* The score. Pragmatika to miso mood tis seiras stinetai panw sto ekpliktiko score tis. Original, sinesthimatiko, epivlitiko.

*To scenario. Oi dialogoi, oxi mono den einai tis plakas, alla einai sovarotatoi kai kalogrammenoi. Akoma kai simeia pou tha mporousan na einai geloia, logw tou thematos, opws gia paradeigma h stigmi pou sinantiountai o Cylon-Zoe me ti Lacy, katafernoun kai se aggizoun. Not an easy job imo.

And what I don't like...

*To vasiko plot. Me xalaei poly, pragmatika omws poly, to gegonos oti ola deixnoun pws oi Cylons ofeiloun auto pou eginan sto persona mias kakomathimenis pitsirikas pou epeze me to AI. Perimena kati diaforetiko sigoura. Oxi oti den dinei xoro gia filosofikes anazitiseis panw sto ti dimiourgoume kai pou odigoume ton kosmo mas, alla mou fanike poly ksenerwto san kentriki idea.

*To zoe - cylon switch. Ok prepei na vlepoume to gkomenaki (pou den einai kako kai auti h fysiki vraxni fwni tis einai poly sexy) alla einai too sureal merikes fores. Tha to sinithisw omws.

Overall h seira exei polla na pei pisteuw opws eipe kai to BSG. Tetoies seires opws to Caprica, to BSG, to Defying Gravity kai tainies opws to District 9, eferan kai pali sto proskinio ena ksexasmeno sci/fi me xwris omws na mirizei nafthalini. Einai fresko, einai vathy kai elpizw oti tha doume kai alles tetoies dimiourgies.
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αυτο το zoe-cylon switch νομιζω το εξηγουν ρε.... η zoe βλεπει-αισθανεται τον εαυτο της με την κανονικη ανθρωπινη μορφη της και οχι σαν ενα τερατομορφο cylon...το γιατι δεν το ξερω αλλα νταξ εδω φαγαμε στην μαπα ενα σαιλον στο μυαλο του μπαλταρ για τοσσες σεζον, σ'αυτο θα κολησουμε?

επισης μενει να απαντηθει και το για ποιο λογο η Ζοε εφτιαξε την ΑΙ

και το defying gravity αν ειναι τοσσο καλο, που το βαζεις στην ιδια κατηγορια με τα υπολοιπα, γιατι το βλεπεις μονο εσυ? Μηπως εχει τιποτα emo μεσα? Twisted Evil Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Den to vlepw pia to Defying Gravity giati kopike Mad Sad

Kai to Defying Gravity htan ekpliktiko. Foveri skiagrafisi xaraktirwn, wraio story, nice acting kai mpoliko food for thought. Ase pou mou thimise to palio adventure tis Lucas Arts, "The Digg".
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cybertroll wrote:
To deep background build stous politismous. Sto BSG auto den mporouse na anaptyxthei idiaitera alla peirame ena glimpse. Sto Caprica omws mporei, kai fainetai oti ginetai idi, na doume emvanthinsi sta diaforetika cultures twn colonies. Mexri stigmis exei estiasei perissotero stous Capricans kai tous Taurons alla elpizw oti tha doume kai tous ypoloipous.

Εγώ πάντως παίρνω όρκο ότι στα ταουρονέζικα ο smooth λέγεται "λιπαρός" και η δασκάλα του μικρού Αντάμα λέγεται Δέσποινα (Des-po-i-na το είπε, ερασμιακή προφορά). Βάλε και την ελληνική πινακίδα (κάτι για εκτυπώσεις) στο "Little Tauron"... και τα πιάσαμε τα λεφτά μας. Razz

Κατά τα άλλα, επιφυλάσσομαι ακόμα. Γενικά καλά το πάει, αλλά πετάει πού και πού κάτι ανατριχιαστικά (περί Τριάδος ας πούμε) και σκιάζομαι τι θα μας βγάλει μετά. Δεν τον εμπιστεύομαι πλέον τον κύριο Moore...
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